More than once I've sat in front of an impassive, chin-stroking shrink, with contentless, checklist, algorithmic drivel crawling out his mouth and wondered, "How the fuck did you get through medical school?"
Honestly, it's a mystery to me. They can be that shallow and vacuous. If you say anything with any emotional or narrativistic density they'll just stare at the floor, waiting for you to eventually say a key word or key phrase they can latch onto and easily digest, nod sagely, then come out with some clinical pronunciamento that is meaningless and out of context.
Of course it's a cult. It's a narcissistically abusive grift. The same psychosocial dynamics you will find in any dysfunctional family or pyramid scheme you will find in psychiatry. And a lot of clinicians come from from highly dysfunctional families: not a visceral, lurid, off the hook train wreck but a cold, aloof, impersonal, "high achieving" status obsessed, social climbing politesse.
That messes people up too. And if these future psychiatrists have been socialized and educated from a young age to see themselves as vastly socially and cognitively superior to the hoi poloi then they're not exactly going to see their patients as equals deserving of informed consent and respect.
Half the reason they're so obsessed with power and control is as a kind of revenge for their high functioning brokenness and spiritual impotence.
Whether a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a psych nurse or a social worker, they all seem to be weak, damaged people with a compulsive, neurotic need to feel dominant and superior. Addressing a patient as a quirky, endearing psychiatric pet in a patronizing, paternalistic, infantilising manner may seem progressive and enlightened compared to the overt dehumanization of yesteryear, but it's still fundamentally toxic and belittling.
A patient constantly absorbing and internalising this second class citizen narrative is not going to acquire self-respect and agency. And that's the point: predators need prey. The bureaucratic cattle management must be maintained and perpetuated.
Valid comments. It's important to know you don't have to be very bright to get through medical school. What you do need is a good memory, be highly organised and methodical, do your work diligently at the time (i.e. defer any pleasure or active living) and, above all, show a "respectful" attitude to the professors, meaning servile.
Remember also psychiatrists don't know anything about the concept of mind. Nothing. They have been taught, and they soak up because they're servile, that "mental symptoms" such as feeling sad are no more than indicators of underlying brain pathology. They are listening for those clues, not what has happened in your life. Early life experiences are irrelevant as everything is genetic. That's what they believe. Arguing with them is waste of time.
I'm afraid that's extremely unlikely to happen. There were no repercussions to the "lobotomy" scandal. If you haven't seen it, find "The Lobotomist" on PBS Frontline in US. There were consequences to the Chelmsford disaster in Australia but that was attributed to a bad apple, not to psychiatry being a bad barrel that infected all the new apples.
I suspect I'm that poster from last article, Professor Niall.
No, I've little personal experience myself with this toxic cult, beyond experimentally trying a friend's lithium for 2-3 days just for a laugh (With his permission), and experiencing the beginning of the 'Bad Trip from Hell' quit instantly, never to look back except in rage.
And a single trainwreck interview with one of this cult's practitioners after mentioning I felt depressed (Due to life's circumstances), during which he offered me a "Free choice of any pill available" after I had repeatedly stated I wanted no pill but counselling. Much of what is in the article I expressed in very forthright terms as to what I thought of his 'profession' and himself in person - the result being an extremely abusive report added to my personal and permanent medical file, incl with absolute lies and actual slander. Well, that really won me over.
However, many of my friends incl close friends have been snared, and all but one finally worked out the truth of the situation as catalogued in the article. But there is no recourse.
Nor can the clock be turned back to before they were toxified.
There are two differences between Witchcraft and Psychiatry - Witchcraft is real; and Witches shouldn't be burned alive on bonfires. Follow the logic of that position as you will.
Another element of that discussion stuck with me: I mentioned I was seeing "Too many connections" between disparate elements (A section on the path to enlightenment, which is unattainable, but still a path worth following for the insights). He - unsurprisingly perhaps, but it still shocked and angered me - offered me a pill for THAT. "Seeing connections", ie patterns, ie pattern-recognition is a, possibly the key to intelligence.
Psychiatry and Big Harma have deliberately created pills that make people STUPID. WHY would they do that?
Soma.
"Happy slaves" is one of their goals. And people who can view Gaza with emotional equanimity.
That insight broke upon me during the interview. And I expressed that too, although the Gaza Genocide was still over 10 years away.
As I say, it was a "trainwreck", lmao.
Please keep pushing Niall, this message needs to get through. Likely there never will be punishments - "Innocent mistakes" etc, but this 'profession' needs to be as calumnied as corporate churnalists currently are.
The subject I or you are fooling yourself by taking the image/knowledge/science of/a-bout the object the subject WANT TO KNOW for real. The knowledge system or model/form does NOT tell you, inFORM you What the body NOR the mind IS. It is an illusion to think you know. You DON’T. Don’t tell that the scientists, the profs of psychology, psychiatry, biology, chemistry, physiology, medicine, physics(quantum or newtonion), mathematics or what have you. They all think/believe and you assume they know…………. untill therealization dawns as a tremendous shock: they/I DON’T, being OUT of the mind’s illusional knowledge SYSTEM.. …. .. . .. . Or, as GÖDEL proofs on the last page of LOGIC, the manual of knowledge creation every so called scientist consciously or unconsciously uses: logical/rational thinking is imagined by the instrument mind to move in circles, “going nowhere”…… . .. . .. . … .. …. .A=A, 1=1,b=b, o=o, I am I, etc,etc, and nothing else(for example: “i am not you”😄)
More than once I've sat in front of an impassive, chin-stroking shrink, with contentless, checklist, algorithmic drivel crawling out his mouth and wondered, "How the fuck did you get through medical school?"
Honestly, it's a mystery to me. They can be that shallow and vacuous. If you say anything with any emotional or narrativistic density they'll just stare at the floor, waiting for you to eventually say a key word or key phrase they can latch onto and easily digest, nod sagely, then come out with some clinical pronunciamento that is meaningless and out of context.
Of course it's a cult. It's a narcissistically abusive grift. The same psychosocial dynamics you will find in any dysfunctional family or pyramid scheme you will find in psychiatry. And a lot of clinicians come from from highly dysfunctional families: not a visceral, lurid, off the hook train wreck but a cold, aloof, impersonal, "high achieving" status obsessed, social climbing politesse.
That messes people up too. And if these future psychiatrists have been socialized and educated from a young age to see themselves as vastly socially and cognitively superior to the hoi poloi then they're not exactly going to see their patients as equals deserving of informed consent and respect.
Half the reason they're so obsessed with power and control is as a kind of revenge for their high functioning brokenness and spiritual impotence.
Whether a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a psych nurse or a social worker, they all seem to be weak, damaged people with a compulsive, neurotic need to feel dominant and superior. Addressing a patient as a quirky, endearing psychiatric pet in a patronizing, paternalistic, infantilising manner may seem progressive and enlightened compared to the overt dehumanization of yesteryear, but it's still fundamentally toxic and belittling.
A patient constantly absorbing and internalising this second class citizen narrative is not going to acquire self-respect and agency. And that's the point: predators need prey. The bureaucratic cattle management must be maintained and perpetuated.
Valid comments. It's important to know you don't have to be very bright to get through medical school. What you do need is a good memory, be highly organised and methodical, do your work diligently at the time (i.e. defer any pleasure or active living) and, above all, show a "respectful" attitude to the professors, meaning servile.
Remember also psychiatrists don't know anything about the concept of mind. Nothing. They have been taught, and they soak up because they're servile, that "mental symptoms" such as feeling sad are no more than indicators of underlying brain pathology. They are listening for those clues, not what has happened in your life. Early life experiences are irrelevant as everything is genetic. That's what they believe. Arguing with them is waste of time.
Excellent
Thank you Dr McLaren 👏🏻🙂🏆I agree!
I just hope their made accountable, for what they do to people and theirs families
I'm afraid that's extremely unlikely to happen. There were no repercussions to the "lobotomy" scandal. If you haven't seen it, find "The Lobotomist" on PBS Frontline in US. There were consequences to the Chelmsford disaster in Australia but that was attributed to a bad apple, not to psychiatry being a bad barrel that infected all the new apples.
I suspect I'm that poster from last article, Professor Niall.
No, I've little personal experience myself with this toxic cult, beyond experimentally trying a friend's lithium for 2-3 days just for a laugh (With his permission), and experiencing the beginning of the 'Bad Trip from Hell' quit instantly, never to look back except in rage.
And a single trainwreck interview with one of this cult's practitioners after mentioning I felt depressed (Due to life's circumstances), during which he offered me a "Free choice of any pill available" after I had repeatedly stated I wanted no pill but counselling. Much of what is in the article I expressed in very forthright terms as to what I thought of his 'profession' and himself in person - the result being an extremely abusive report added to my personal and permanent medical file, incl with absolute lies and actual slander. Well, that really won me over.
However, many of my friends incl close friends have been snared, and all but one finally worked out the truth of the situation as catalogued in the article. But there is no recourse.
Nor can the clock be turned back to before they were toxified.
There are two differences between Witchcraft and Psychiatry - Witchcraft is real; and Witches shouldn't be burned alive on bonfires. Follow the logic of that position as you will.
Another element of that discussion stuck with me: I mentioned I was seeing "Too many connections" between disparate elements (A section on the path to enlightenment, which is unattainable, but still a path worth following for the insights). He - unsurprisingly perhaps, but it still shocked and angered me - offered me a pill for THAT. "Seeing connections", ie patterns, ie pattern-recognition is a, possibly the key to intelligence.
Psychiatry and Big Harma have deliberately created pills that make people STUPID. WHY would they do that?
Soma.
"Happy slaves" is one of their goals. And people who can view Gaza with emotional equanimity.
That insight broke upon me during the interview. And I expressed that too, although the Gaza Genocide was still over 10 years away.
As I say, it was a "trainwreck", lmao.
Please keep pushing Niall, this message needs to get through. Likely there never will be punishments - "Innocent mistakes" etc, but this 'profession' needs to be as calumnied as corporate churnalists currently are.
We fight on.
The subject I or you are fooling yourself by taking the image/knowledge/science of/a-bout the object the subject WANT TO KNOW for real. The knowledge system or model/form does NOT tell you, inFORM you What the body NOR the mind IS. It is an illusion to think you know. You DON’T. Don’t tell that the scientists, the profs of psychology, psychiatry, biology, chemistry, physiology, medicine, physics(quantum or newtonion), mathematics or what have you. They all think/believe and you assume they know…………. untill therealization dawns as a tremendous shock: they/I DON’T, being OUT of the mind’s illusional knowledge SYSTEM.. …. .. . .. . Or, as GÖDEL proofs on the last page of LOGIC, the manual of knowledge creation every so called scientist consciously or unconsciously uses: logical/rational thinking is imagined by the instrument mind to move in circles, “going nowhere”…… . .. . .. . … .. …. .A=A, 1=1,b=b, o=o, I am I, etc,etc, and nothing else(for example: “i am not you”😄)