Thank you Dr McLaren 😍💖🏆🔥🤗 really enjoyed I did not have much time to read Substack, but I realize I need to read your posts, you have a special way of confronting these horrendous situations and make me laugh! May the new year bring happiness, health, love and prosperity 🥂🍾 Di and Orli
Been an excellent essay without that cheap shot at Jung. As anyone who has studied meditation, trance, Crowley, or esoteric Paganism could have told you, what Jung was pointing to is very real, and has effects. Admittedly, the circumstances of 'Scientific study' most often preclude those experiences, much as taking LSD while surrounded by CIA torturers and quacks probably isn't going to give you a good trip.
To anyone not on the various gravy-trains (Academic, or Big Pharma), it should be obvious that 'mental problems' come both from experiences (IE, psychological), and also traumatic physical injury (And rarely, bad genes to begin with). A decent interview with the victim would probably clear that up quite quickly, if no axes were being ground (For subsidised golfing holidays and other luxuries).
Of course, as many have observed over the past 100 years, actually curing people isn't that 'profitable'.
It's a foul stench that comes from the psychiatric quarter, and I'm glad to have avoided its practitioners as much as possible, and their toxic potions and quack explanations.
As a teacher, I've had to deal with idiotic other teachers who just want 'calm' students, and bugger the consequences to the young victims. I'd never give kids those drugs myself, simply talking to them and being THERE for them creates literal miracles.
And there's no reason to assume that isn't true for most people, young or old.
The fundamental rule of the positivist movement was that empiricism was the only way to go, all metaphysical elements had to be excluded which, perforce, meant the human mind (and animal minds, of course, but that's another story). Even though the behaviorist movement was underway, they credite Freudian psychiatry as "scientific" even though it was rife with unproveable metaphysical assumptions. Once that was done, there was no way of stopping further metaphysical elements intruding, then the frankly fanciful. This was the reason psychoanalytic psychiatry became absurd and led to it being rejected, starting in about 1970, culminating in DSM-III etc. To write that, the committee swung back to the original positivist position, no metaphysics, which they took to mean "No mind." However, the mind is a fact that won't go away just because a committee tells it to, and now we see the idea of a "mindless" psychiatry is breaking down. Good. What the DSM mob don't take into account is the massive development of the notion that information is NOT metaphysical, therefore if the mind is an informational state, the mind is not metaphysical and can be properly studied as a scientific entity. This is the basis of the biocognitive model for psychiatry; it says "We have minds; we are born with brains but minds develop as a result of experience; minds can be messed up by bad experiences; this is a matter of psychology not of brain pathology; therefore correct treatment is overwhelmingly psychological in nature." And yes, that includes simply being with a distressed person. The important point of distress is that normally, it resolves. We can facilitate that process a little but we can greatly retard it, if not push the person into a state from which they cannot recover, e.g. the old "looney bins," massive doses of mind-altering drugs, etc. And totally agree, it's true for young and old, male and female, black and brown and white, makes no difference. Making contact with the human makes the difference. Best, JMcL
Thanks for the thoughtful and considered reply, Niall.
I'm with you 95% of the way on this, although I have many many thousands of hours recorded of 'debate' with Behaviourists, Positivists, Materialists, Freudians, and other assorted mentally and morally deficient characters - it's no surprise to learn that within that group are the nastiest people I have ever encountered online, especially Behaviourists (Not that they have a CHOICE in how they behave of course, it's just their genes or experiences, they don't have a mind capable of free will needless to say) - I can't say they've ever been impressive. On anything except their capability to make other people feel worse.
The only slippage is regarding Jung, and "Metaphysics" as you call it.
The problem does come down to that 'Witch-killing' period. Thing is, magic and other esoteric branches are very, very real. TP, TK, curses, blessings, possibly even talismans etc (Not an area I have direct experience in, but people who know have assured me) - these things are not hocus pocus, but tangible effects of applied concentration. The problem is that they are not susceptible to mechanistic analysis. People can't be SURE that it's a curse, or just bad luck, and once they start believing in curses, that lack of objective certainty soon pushes them over the edge into thinking EVERYTHING is connected to "magical" effects. Lunacy (Paranoia) soon follows.
The 'solution' of the Catholics was simply to deny its very possibility. This is deeply unsatisfactory. It is denying very reality, so any models built upon that will be limited, and cause future problems.
What Jung discovered, was not "woo", but grounded hard facts. Collective subconscious can be explored in many large group settings (Incl academic meetings, if you think about it, and are prepared to see it).
The "woo" is real. But our hard Materialistic culture has no way to deal with that reality, because for some reason the West doubled down on denying it - but I can tell you from hard won experience that the "elites" in the UK not only believe in it, they practice it too. Our old queen was an experienced magical user - I know that personally from how we met.
(She was not some princess locked up in a tower, no matter how the 'royals' are presented by the media).
But releasing that lid would open a pandora's box of ills, because we no longer have Druid equivalents who are capable of calming the Public down. Shittianity is useless except for creating pogroms and bleating about "Satan" ffs.
Jung, and Crowley, knew what they were about, and were scientific about it too.
As a teen, I thought it was a joke - like most normies. It's not.
But there is no path forward on this either, because the Materialists and 'Church' have denied all sane pathways.
So perhaps it's 'better' to call it "woo", and attempt to ignore it. Medicate to death all those who are victims of magical assault, while calling them "insane" for their actual experiences.
And just wait and hope that future generations discard this Materialism and Monotheism for something more stable and sane, that is capable of exploring innerspace without getting hysterical.
I live in hope.
Have a good Yuletide professor, and may you find some nice goodies in your socks when you wake up. Again, thank you for your very hard work, and willingness to share freely.
Nevertheless it seems what are called "governments" have found in them the solution for continuing human beings slavery, that is why they still exist hopefully not for too long, of course there are exceptions like you Dr McLaren 🙂🏆
Thank you Dr McLaren 😍💖🏆🔥🤗 really enjoyed I did not have much time to read Substack, but I realize I need to read your posts, you have a special way of confronting these horrendous situations and make me laugh! May the new year bring happiness, health, love and prosperity 🥂🍾 Di and Orli
Been an excellent essay without that cheap shot at Jung. As anyone who has studied meditation, trance, Crowley, or esoteric Paganism could have told you, what Jung was pointing to is very real, and has effects. Admittedly, the circumstances of 'Scientific study' most often preclude those experiences, much as taking LSD while surrounded by CIA torturers and quacks probably isn't going to give you a good trip.
To anyone not on the various gravy-trains (Academic, or Big Pharma), it should be obvious that 'mental problems' come both from experiences (IE, psychological), and also traumatic physical injury (And rarely, bad genes to begin with). A decent interview with the victim would probably clear that up quite quickly, if no axes were being ground (For subsidised golfing holidays and other luxuries).
Of course, as many have observed over the past 100 years, actually curing people isn't that 'profitable'.
It's a foul stench that comes from the psychiatric quarter, and I'm glad to have avoided its practitioners as much as possible, and their toxic potions and quack explanations.
As a teacher, I've had to deal with idiotic other teachers who just want 'calm' students, and bugger the consequences to the young victims. I'd never give kids those drugs myself, simply talking to them and being THERE for them creates literal miracles.
And there's no reason to assume that isn't true for most people, young or old.
The fundamental rule of the positivist movement was that empiricism was the only way to go, all metaphysical elements had to be excluded which, perforce, meant the human mind (and animal minds, of course, but that's another story). Even though the behaviorist movement was underway, they credite Freudian psychiatry as "scientific" even though it was rife with unproveable metaphysical assumptions. Once that was done, there was no way of stopping further metaphysical elements intruding, then the frankly fanciful. This was the reason psychoanalytic psychiatry became absurd and led to it being rejected, starting in about 1970, culminating in DSM-III etc. To write that, the committee swung back to the original positivist position, no metaphysics, which they took to mean "No mind." However, the mind is a fact that won't go away just because a committee tells it to, and now we see the idea of a "mindless" psychiatry is breaking down. Good. What the DSM mob don't take into account is the massive development of the notion that information is NOT metaphysical, therefore if the mind is an informational state, the mind is not metaphysical and can be properly studied as a scientific entity. This is the basis of the biocognitive model for psychiatry; it says "We have minds; we are born with brains but minds develop as a result of experience; minds can be messed up by bad experiences; this is a matter of psychology not of brain pathology; therefore correct treatment is overwhelmingly psychological in nature." And yes, that includes simply being with a distressed person. The important point of distress is that normally, it resolves. We can facilitate that process a little but we can greatly retard it, if not push the person into a state from which they cannot recover, e.g. the old "looney bins," massive doses of mind-altering drugs, etc. And totally agree, it's true for young and old, male and female, black and brown and white, makes no difference. Making contact with the human makes the difference. Best, JMcL
Thanks for the thoughtful and considered reply, Niall.
I'm with you 95% of the way on this, although I have many many thousands of hours recorded of 'debate' with Behaviourists, Positivists, Materialists, Freudians, and other assorted mentally and morally deficient characters - it's no surprise to learn that within that group are the nastiest people I have ever encountered online, especially Behaviourists (Not that they have a CHOICE in how they behave of course, it's just their genes or experiences, they don't have a mind capable of free will needless to say) - I can't say they've ever been impressive. On anything except their capability to make other people feel worse.
The only slippage is regarding Jung, and "Metaphysics" as you call it.
The problem does come down to that 'Witch-killing' period. Thing is, magic and other esoteric branches are very, very real. TP, TK, curses, blessings, possibly even talismans etc (Not an area I have direct experience in, but people who know have assured me) - these things are not hocus pocus, but tangible effects of applied concentration. The problem is that they are not susceptible to mechanistic analysis. People can't be SURE that it's a curse, or just bad luck, and once they start believing in curses, that lack of objective certainty soon pushes them over the edge into thinking EVERYTHING is connected to "magical" effects. Lunacy (Paranoia) soon follows.
The 'solution' of the Catholics was simply to deny its very possibility. This is deeply unsatisfactory. It is denying very reality, so any models built upon that will be limited, and cause future problems.
What Jung discovered, was not "woo", but grounded hard facts. Collective subconscious can be explored in many large group settings (Incl academic meetings, if you think about it, and are prepared to see it).
The "woo" is real. But our hard Materialistic culture has no way to deal with that reality, because for some reason the West doubled down on denying it - but I can tell you from hard won experience that the "elites" in the UK not only believe in it, they practice it too. Our old queen was an experienced magical user - I know that personally from how we met.
(She was not some princess locked up in a tower, no matter how the 'royals' are presented by the media).
But releasing that lid would open a pandora's box of ills, because we no longer have Druid equivalents who are capable of calming the Public down. Shittianity is useless except for creating pogroms and bleating about "Satan" ffs.
Jung, and Crowley, knew what they were about, and were scientific about it too.
As a teen, I thought it was a joke - like most normies. It's not.
But there is no path forward on this either, because the Materialists and 'Church' have denied all sane pathways.
So perhaps it's 'better' to call it "woo", and attempt to ignore it. Medicate to death all those who are victims of magical assault, while calling them "insane" for their actual experiences.
And just wait and hope that future generations discard this Materialism and Monotheism for something more stable and sane, that is capable of exploring innerspace without getting hysterical.
I live in hope.
Have a good Yuletide professor, and may you find some nice goodies in your socks when you wake up. Again, thank you for your very hard work, and willingness to share freely.
May the Goddess be with you always. xxx <3
🔥🤗
Nevertheless it seems what are called "governments" have found in them the solution for continuing human beings slavery, that is why they still exist hopefully not for too long, of course there are exceptions like you Dr McLaren 🙂🏆