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"First one, as mentioned, is that the paranoid is never wrong. Take somebody who says “Climate change is a hoax.” The test is to ask them: “What happens if you’re wrong?” A reasonable person will give a reasonable answer but the genuinely paranoid dismiss it: “I’m not wrong, it’s all a hoax.” You try again: “I didn’t ask whether you believe you’re right because obviously you do. I asked what will you do if you’re wrong?” It will go nowhere because, for the paranoid, there is no conceivable chance of being wrong. The paranoid personality KNOWS with rock-solid certainty. This is not delusion as they use their intellect to find fault in your own position. For them, being told they may be wrong is deeply insulting and they will usually walk away in disgust."

Genuinely thankful for that insight! I hadn't managed to distil it down that far, but it fits, perfectly.

Especially that particular example. Actually even experienced that, and yet hadn't linked it to paranoia - and yes, they DID know absolutely everything with absolute confidence in their own abilities. Funny how often "I have an amazing IQ, and have always been the smartest person in the room" gets tied into racism/sexism too before you can blink in the conversation.

On Trump, it's worth remembering that his political enemies made no secret that they intended to do to him what you say he wants to do to them - and indeed weaponised the judicial system to that end. And the 'Intel' agencies too.

Who was it who said "The intel agencies have several ways from hell to get back at you", with reference to Trump's criticism of them?

I'm nowhere near a head of state, lol, but I've directly experienced enough to be "paranoid*" about those institutions.

*Of course, there is justified paranoia too, as Cobain sang.

Being paranoid can be a survival instinct in a dirty world, letting it take over (And seeing one huge conspiracy behind EVERYTHING) is to become a paranoic.

One of the saddest losses (And biggest lessons) was losing a good friend to Ickeism - everything/everyone was controlled by invisible aliens with mind-control rays. You try arguing someone out of that. Especially when those aliens are controlling YOU in the attempt... naturally. :eye-roll-sob:

I thank Frank Herbert, PKD, and Robert Anton Wilson, and even Crowley a little, for helping to avoid such delusions when they come knocking. Plus, I'm often wrong. :)

I was wrong about Brexshit, fx. Sure, it's a disaster through and through, on that I was right. What I hadn't seen was that the EU would turn into a mindless warmachine dictatorship.

Not that I can recall a single BeLeaver making that particular argument. Lol.

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Hmmm, I find this article a slightly interesting attempt to define suitable holders of power among humans.

But I think schematically we are looking at how society can actually remain intact while the "fitting" assume that power.

Humans love to squabble, dispute, and disagree. Even if the disagreement is at a moderate level, or emerging from say 10 percent of those involved, it quite easily infects the culture of all, and time and attention limits mean that many things remain in limbo because people simply dont see things sufficiently the same.

For me, focusing on kindness and making people feel good but also encouraging in them things like ethical curiosity and critical reflection remains the best choice and guidance from day to day. Appreciate, too, that being kind is not designed to be easy; rather, it involves a high level of self-sacrifice and humility and the willingness to risk being hurt and having to heal oneself, and try again. Many are crippled and become far too tough because they have been hurt a few times and think it's not worth it.

Be kind to ALL beings. Acknowledge that cruelty is on such a vast scale in the world that we should do what we can to mitigate that and find a bit of peace.

Here are some links: dontprocreate.org and veganeasy.org

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