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F.J. Mast's avatar

F.J.M.

Yes, it may look like a very small jump, but the difference is essential, i.e. the mind’s I, the subject calling Itself I, that want to KNOW the object, whatever the object is/may be.

Essential means: WithOut it, there is no subject, no object, no knower, no knowledge…..

So, it can be said that the mind is the instrument “used” to differentiate, basically, in the beginning, in two different parts/quanta/pieces/bits/bites/data, you name it, which thereafter/subsequently are integrated again in the form of Knowledge. Which is, btw, mathematics, the “hardest science we know is all about: differentiate and integrate… in this Order……………………

Human individuals think/believe/assume they are the subject I and not the object the want to know what it is. Obviously this is an illusion. There is no I IN the body that controls the body or whatever the object is. Or the mind-body problem isn’t a problem at All! Wanting to know what is = the problem, as long as the illusion “exists”, that it must be possible to solve the problem or to know HOW to end this illusion, which is simply IMpossible.

A problem that can not be solved, without a solution isn’t a problem AT ALL🤔😉😃

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You write that “the real action takes place silently, instantly, and without any sense of “talking to ourselves.”” What you describe is technically not action but an effect; an action has to be intentional and must involve a choice that is not determined by the priori state of the world, otherwise it is just things happening to you, not you ‘doing’ things. I nevertheless agree that this is the most common mode of behaviour in human beings, and the sole mode of behaviour in animals.

You also write that “I do not have a running commentary in my head”. This is surprising to me because I do, and it is almost continuous, often as a second voice in my mind arranging what I am about to say out loud while I am still talking half a sentence back (but i find it tiring, so i prefer to write). In critical, time constrained situations, I do resort to ‘automatic’, conditioned behaviour. Our automatic, conditioned behaviour may also be influenced by conscious action, carefully evaluated and chosen. We have the capacity to condition ourselves, intentionally, animals do not.

Crucially, I consider the ‘real world’ of objects to be also a form of language, a more primitive language. When we ‘perceive’ things or physical properties we recognise them as instances of common meaning, in the same way as we recognise words in a natural language, But whereas the ‘real world’ is an ‘object-language’ (in the logical, structural sense), our spoken language is a meta-language that ‘is about’ the object-language, plus it allows for abstract terms that signify the presuppositions of language itself. So when anything involuntarily ‘happens to us’, our perception of this happening is still a kind of language.

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