Psychiatrists study medicine and then forget it. That used to infuriate me, I told the juniors: "If you don't examine the patient properly, who will be the next person to do it? The pathologist." They didn't like that, they'd all been taught not to touch patients. Bloody ridiculous, as soon as a person gets a psychiatric diagnosis on their rile, nobody takes them seriously, they won't even take a history, just write in the file: "Well known patient, back again with usual complaints."
"If we conceptualise the mind as a “substance,” then it necessarily has magical properties and can’t be included in a science of human behaviour"
The Enactivist schools dominating philosophy of psychiatry right now would disagree with you. There are other kinds of substance metaphysics that do away with both Cartesianism and mechanism altogether while being grounded in dynamical systems theory and non-reductive physicalism.
Excellent question. My view is that the drugs cause emotional numbing, which is what they're intended to do, but they also cause akathisia, which is hugely distressing. In that state, people get the idea: "If this is life, might as well end it." I have heard from so many people that the idea of suicide just popped into their head, or even homicide, but they didn't react to it emotionally and just approached would could be a fatal act in a state of detachment.
Exactly and over here a dokter who istn even a psychologist can prescribe this on a hunch.
And with the excuse that it is the lightest drug, with the lowest dose. Just try it, it can't do any harm...
But no harm turns out to be turning a life upside down. And taking people on a path that destroys the rest of someone's life. And, in a way, ending oneself would have been the easy way out, compared to the unhinged heap of bureaucratic evil that was attached to this harmless experiment.
And the entire system just looked away, it still does.
On one side, blame the parents for bureaucracy induced crap. And then point to the Freudian system for 'help'.
But if somone nologer trusts that 'help' that I described above. Then you are on your own. And they describe those people as 'unwilling to accept any help from them, and the bureaucracy then cracks down on them. With all the stuff that destroys life on every level.
And then the question is how to get out of that situation.
As they close every door. Except crime... but those who refuse that path dont have many options left. We cant find any...
Not expecting you to have an answer either, just painting a situation that some people get confronted with here in Europe.
For some this is the current state of life, others turn to alcohol, drugs, aggression. And from there things get way way worse for those.
So I guess I seek a non Freudian remedy. But it may not come with a price tag. As there is no budget for anything.
Thanks for laying it out and walking us trough it.
Im glad I found clear, yet more complicated then expected, explanations about things im researching for a long time but always found difficult to find proof.
Now I found it i cant use it to turn back time. And confront a few people with it.
That's a few paragraphs to cover half a book, necessarily condensed.
In one of the few of his comments I like, Daniel Dennett said: "The final theory of mind will turn out to be counter-intuitive. It has to be, we've tried all the obvious ones." The idea of an insubstantial but causally-effective information space was counter-intuitive until Alan Turing came along.
Brilliant piece. Thanks for that.
Pity you didn't speak about Gustav Fechner. Nonetheless, good article.
A good psychologist should study everything. Even endocrinology etc. Avoiding it, would be abnormal.
Psychiatrists study medicine and then forget it. That used to infuriate me, I told the juniors: "If you don't examine the patient properly, who will be the next person to do it? The pathologist." They didn't like that, they'd all been taught not to touch patients. Bloody ridiculous, as soon as a person gets a psychiatric diagnosis on their rile, nobody takes them seriously, they won't even take a history, just write in the file: "Well known patient, back again with usual complaints."
"The brain is a computational organ."
"If we conceptualise the mind as a “substance,” then it necessarily has magical properties and can’t be included in a science of human behaviour"
The Enactivist schools dominating philosophy of psychiatry right now would disagree with you. There are other kinds of substance metaphysics that do away with both Cartesianism and mechanism altogether while being grounded in dynamical systems theory and non-reductive physicalism.
Not sure if I should ask this.
Why can someone who is not depressed get severely depressed from a low dosage of sertraline.
As it is used to raise serotonine in the brain. And depression is when serotonine levels go down.
How can this be rationalised?
Its the exact opposite of what should happen.
And it is actually a known side effect that people who use sertraline can get severe ideas of 'ending themselves'
Its stunning that a medication with such a side effect can be legal.
Excellent question. My view is that the drugs cause emotional numbing, which is what they're intended to do, but they also cause akathisia, which is hugely distressing. In that state, people get the idea: "If this is life, might as well end it." I have heard from so many people that the idea of suicide just popped into their head, or even homicide, but they didn't react to it emotionally and just approached would could be a fatal act in a state of detachment.
Exactly and over here a dokter who istn even a psychologist can prescribe this on a hunch.
And with the excuse that it is the lightest drug, with the lowest dose. Just try it, it can't do any harm...
But no harm turns out to be turning a life upside down. And taking people on a path that destroys the rest of someone's life. And, in a way, ending oneself would have been the easy way out, compared to the unhinged heap of bureaucratic evil that was attached to this harmless experiment.
And the entire system just looked away, it still does.
On one side, blame the parents for bureaucracy induced crap. And then point to the Freudian system for 'help'.
But if somone nologer trusts that 'help' that I described above. Then you are on your own. And they describe those people as 'unwilling to accept any help from them, and the bureaucracy then cracks down on them. With all the stuff that destroys life on every level.
And then the question is how to get out of that situation.
As they close every door. Except crime... but those who refuse that path dont have many options left. We cant find any...
Not expecting you to have an answer either, just painting a situation that some people get confronted with here in Europe.
For some this is the current state of life, others turn to alcohol, drugs, aggression. And from there things get way way worse for those.
So I guess I seek a non Freudian remedy. But it may not come with a price tag. As there is no budget for anything.
Its an interesting situation to work with...
Thanks for laying it out and walking us trough it.
Im glad I found clear, yet more complicated then expected, explanations about things im researching for a long time but always found difficult to find proof.
Now I found it i cant use it to turn back time. And confront a few people with it.
That's a few paragraphs to cover half a book, necessarily condensed.
In one of the few of his comments I like, Daniel Dennett said: "The final theory of mind will turn out to be counter-intuitive. It has to be, we've tried all the obvious ones." The idea of an insubstantial but causally-effective information space was counter-intuitive until Alan Turing came along.